Emco Concept Turn 155 with Fanuc 21

October 19, 2018, 12:32 am

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Hi all,
So at another training college I've been tasked to help out at they have a Emco concept turn 155.
So it has never been powered up since it was put in here. They bought it new. All powering is correct but I have no idea how to power the control up????

What is the procedure? If I flip a contact over in the electrical cabinet I get the drives on but at the control itself how do I power it up? What confuses me is that it has the control and then a keyboard and mouse in a tray underneath it with a cd rom drive and dicsk drive?

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G84 tapping depth issues with floating head.

October 19, 2018, 4:55 am

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Hi all,

I'm having a bit of an issue getting my tap to run down to the correct depth using a floating head and G84. The machine tends to reverse before the tap hits the depth I want, often as much as .100" too high. This is a lot of fun when bottom tapping.

I can get it to go where I want by guessing and lowering the Z a bunch of times until it's about right. I have my retract height at 0.6" to make sure I'm clear of the material before it rapids upward.

Is there a better way?

Threadmilling M16X2 with 1/2" diameter inserted threadmill?

October 19, 2018, 6:15 am

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Quick question.

Running this in a mill.

Have a shallow hole in 304 stainless that needs an M16X2 thread. It is only 1/2" deep and goes to a flat bottom.

We run mostly Iscar tools, and when looking for a 2mm pitch threadmill, the only size inserts they have are 14mm tall, and the smallest diameter tool that will hold those inserts is 1/2"

I already have the tool body.



Now, their site says: "Minimum bore should be one-third larger than D "


So my question is, is the "bore" diameter the major diameter or the minor? Even if it is the major diameter, this tool is a little bit bigger than they say it should be.


Would I be okay running a 1/2 diameter for an M16X2?


Edit, here is the tool: ISCAR Cutting Tools - Metal Working Tools - MTE D : 334692 - MTE D.5-1-W.75-14

And the insert: ISCAR Cutting Tools - Metal Working Tools - MT LNH#-ISO (Internal) : 5669332 - MT LNHU 143 I2.ISO

Questions about turning Beryllium Copper

October 19, 2018, 7:02 am

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Hey guys,
I could use a little help here.I have a local customer who has a job coming up that involves a good bit of turning and the material is beryllium copper. Yes, I am aware of the health concerns and safety precautions needed, no need to beat that dead horse.

Specifically: What edge prep and coating have you found that performs in this material?
It's smooth OD turning, no crust or interruption.
I need to order some test inserts so here are the 3 options I'm considering:

A) A stainless steel grade with sharp, positive edge prep and CVD coating

B) Steel grade with free cutting but tougher edge prep and black aluminum oxide coating.
This is a combination I've had good success with in medium carbon steels at high SFM's.
The Medium temperature CVD coating is polished and is super wear resistant.

C) A harder grade for Hi-Temp alloys with a positive, sharp edge and PVD coating.
(Doubtful this is correct for this material but thought I would list it as an option)

I'm leaning toward the Steel grade with the MT-CVD coating. Opinions from people who have turned this material?

Here's the steel grade with thick MT-CVD coating

ZCC CNG432-PM YBC252

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Renishaw Probe , Speedio, Multiple Work Offsets

October 19, 2018, 11:01 am

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We have a Renishaw probe in one of our Speedio S500X1's. We are using it to pick up X only on each piece when put into a 4th axis. We do this simply due to variance in length from the lathe operation.

The way Yamazen setup the probe for us it is touching off the part three times, once for each work offset, in the same spot on the part. We have three different work offsets in the program to control different areas of Profile independently. There is a main code for the probe cycle, then a sub program for the rest of the routine. Below is the main program that is being called. The I value is what we have been adjusting for work offset overrides to control each Profile independently.

My question is, is there any way to have this touch the part just one time, and set all three work offsets while still having control of each work offset independently? This is one of our high production parts so I'm looking to trim off any fat possible from this operation.

(SINGLE TOUCH X)
G65 P8700 W54. X.25 I-.7229;
G65 P8700 W55. X.25 I-.7238;
G65 P8700 W56. X.25 I-.7210;
M99;


Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks!

Automating 6 pallet pool HMC

October 19, 2018, 11:10 am

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Wondering if what I'm about to ask is doable. Bare with me on this Q.

I started working at a facility that has a Wia HMC with a 6 pallet carousel-style changer.

The carousel is still manually operated so after the operator loads/unloads the part, they need to cycle the pallet to the machine and visa-versa for a finished part.

The carousel obviously knows the pallet's location since you can select a specific pallet to move to the machine or load/unload area. There is some sort of interlock between the carousel and machine to not allow pallets to load/unload on top of another.

Wondering if there are any integrators out there that can set up the machine/carousel to be automated?

So the process would go: after loading a part, the operator can tell the machine a part is ready as well as have the machine automatically call the respective program for the part (we're using Predator DNC. AFAIK, Predator can call a program via barcode so I don't know how far off that is from marrying programs to parts in a carousel. I imagine an external PLC would control pallet/programs and then the PLC would dump the program into the PMC? Or maybe the PMC is capable of controlling all of this?)

It'd be nice to load the carousel with parts but even if 2 pallets were to be used, it'd be nice for the carousel to automatically cycle itself to bring the pallets to and from the operator/machine.

Our one go-to business that sold and setup the equipment is slammed with work but I don't think this is in their realm. I figure Hyundai will charge an arm and a leg so looking for some other businesses that might know how to make this work? I wonder if there's something to learn from Fanuc's coursework on Macro's and PMC programming?

Fanuc 18 instability

October 19, 2018, 1:20 pm

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Hello everybody! This is my first post here so I thought I’d start with something fun... where I work we have several Moore jig grinders that we converted into lathes. The one that I use the most overall works very well, except for some sort of intermittent instability(?) in the servos; at times in rapid traverse, instead of moving smoothly, the axes sound like they are starting and stopping at around 20 Hz. Once they are positioned, they whine very loudly at 650 Hz. I’ve poked around in the 18xx parameters but the minor changes I made had little to no effect.

The best remedy someone came up with was to add a counterweight acting on both axes (see picture), but I’m still pretty new here and would like to get this thing running like it should, so any advice would be appreciated


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Turret off centre puma 400

October 20, 2018, 7:03 am

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Hi,

We have a couple of puma 400s with fanuc 21ti controls. We have just had the turret all realigned after some minor bumps.
Machine has had quite a few bumps over the years.
My question is, Ive called the tool and offset up, when ive clocked the pocket in for drilling etc.
at x0.
Pressed the measure button, then x0 measure on geometry.
I have a 0.102" in my x geometry for that tool.
Wshift x is also 0.
Is there a parameter to alter so its all on 0? Rather than have these false figures in

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Mazak st40 t32 control iso programming

October 20, 2018, 11:20 pm

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Dear Friends, We have two numbers of Mazak ST40 ATC with T32 controller. Both machines are having ISO OPTION. Though the machines are running...

HURCO Ultimax 2 Memory board

October 21, 2018, 7:57 am

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Does anyone know if an MM8800/XX memory board is compatible with an Ultimax 2 controller?

Macro cnc fanuc oi mc

October 21, 2018, 11:10 am

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Please I nerd a help, my machine dont read macro.
When I use Tool chance 9000 program dont run.
In MDI and AUTO dont run .
Please help me

Bar feeder robot and probe recommendations for a lathe

October 21, 2018, 1:00 pm

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Hi All:
I've run a 5C gang chucker for a number of years now making small parts from bar stock in relatively low quantities, so I have never felt the need for much in the way of automation.

However, I just ran a reasonably tight tolerance job, 550 parts and have experienced pain I want to make go away.
I have been standing in front of the machine for DAYS, picking off parts and QC-ing them, then adjusting X axis offsets to stay within tolerance.
I hope to automate now, and I have been musing the benefits of a robot for some years but have never looked very seriously.

The machine is stripped; no bar feeder, no tool setter, no parts catcher, no NOTHING.
It's an SNK Prodigy from 2007 and has a Fanuc OI Mate control.
I have no idea if it can be made to talk to modern technology with M codes, but I have a buddy who specializes in making these kinds of subsystems talk to each other so I'm hopeful he'll be willing and all the integration will go smoothly in that regard.

But I know nothing of what hardware I should be looking for so I've come here for recommendations.
The machine does weird things as it warms up but is predictable to within a tenth or so once it's stabilized at temperature.
I've mapped the X axis offsets needed to ramp up from a cold start, but I still need to be able to probe for the really tight tolerance stuff and adjust the X offset on the fly if I want to fully automate and still make good parts.

With regard to parts catcher vs robot; I've been leaning toward robot because of the additional capability it potentially gives me to flip a part for OP 2, to load parts from a tray, and to run the robot on a mill too, so I'm looking for something universal that can be wheeled up to a machine and be run safely without an enclosure, pretty much exclusively for part loading and unloading.

Regarding bar feeders, I've been bar pulling and it's been working OK but it's got some shortcomings especially with 1" diameter bars which are too heavy to pull reliably.
I never run super high part volume so I'm looking at plenty of useful gains from being able to run bars as short as two footers; in fact I doubt I'd ever want to run anything longer, unless two foot bar feeders are not available to buy.
I have no space for 12 footers, 20 footers or even 6 footers in my small shop.

So, those of you familiar with what's out there...what should I be looking at?
Which probing system?
Which robot?
Which bar feeder?

Cheers

Marcus
Implant Mechanix • Design & Innovation > HOME
Vancouver Wire EDM -- Wire EDM Machining.

M6 macro

October 21, 2018, 1:23 pm

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Hi all. I have a 1983 Kitamura Mycenter 3 withc carousel ATC and Fanuc 6M controller. I've lost the tool change macro. Does anyone have a copy they'd be willing to share? Thanks in advance!

Anilam Crusader M 3 Axis Mill will not boot up.

October 21, 2018, 11:14 am

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I was hoping to get some help and get my old Anilam Crusader M 3 axis mill up and running again.

It started not booting up on and off and the keypad would freeze and the screen would go blank every few times I would go to use it.

I took all the boards out and cleaned them with deoxit contact cleaner and re-seated them well.

After that it ran fine for an hour and then locked up again and now will not boot up at all.

There is no "click" from the relay when the machine is turned on and on the orange tabbed board there are four red LED's lit up. There is also a red LED lit up on the power supply. I checked across the large blue cap in the cabinet and only got 87 volts DC.

Any idea what the problem could be and what I need to fix it?

Pictures are attached of LEDs and power supply model number.

Jerry at Anilam has retired. So that resource is gone.

Thank You,
Steve

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Turret clamp timing Fanuc 18t.. Hwacheon 21hs

October 21, 2018, 6:17 am

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I have a Hwacheon 21 HS Big Bore with an 18T FANUC controller on it... I crashed it... took the turret completely apart and while I was doing that found that the spring on the pin that runs back and forth in front of the sensor that tells it when the Chuck is clamped and unclamped was broken so I replaced it and now when it goes to index sometimes it doesn't quite have enough time to unclamp all the way before it starts to rotate... my question is... is there any way to change the timing of the unclamp so I can add a couple hundreds of a second so I can keep the gears from nicking each other when it goes when it goes to rotate?? and just so you know I did adjust the sensor in and out a hundred different ways to try and get the timing just right but that's as close as I can get. Sometimes it hits but not every time....and yes I realize that it might be the spring and it might be just a little bit too strong but I'm not taking this thing apart again because of that stupid spring... I basically made this whole thread to see if I could cheat the timing of the computer so I don't have to take it apart again. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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IEMCA VP 80 Flag Open Error

October 22, 2018, 6:55 am

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We changed over from running our 3 jaw chuck back to our collet chuck on our Mori SL-153 with an IEMCA VP-80 bar feeder.
When the pusher loads a new bar we are getting and error: Error:flag open
The error occurs after the loader pushes the bar into the collet. It errors before even returning to its home position.
We know that the switch is working that detects the flag. We also know that the signal is being made at the SU210 control.
We think we may have a parameter issue. Something that was changed when we were running the 3 jaw chuck vs the collet chuck.
Looking for ideas.
Thanks
Brad - New Haven, IN

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Mazak Error 354 Start Cond. Err (Set up SW)

October 22, 2018, 8:29 am

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I have a Mazak Quick Turn 250 and it does not get run very often because we are a mostly HAAS shop. Anyhow upon setting up a job today I kept getting the error of "354 Start Cond. Err (Set up SW)". Does anyone know what needs to be done to correct it? I am sure it is something simple but I cannot find an answer anywhere and I am not as knowledgeable on Mazak machines. Thanks! :)

A2-6 "Spacer" ???

October 22, 2018, 8:30 am

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Does anyone know of a "spacer" readily available on the market to extend an A2-6 nose out a few inches?

Point being to get out past the probe on this machine to put a bigger scroll chuck on.

(No - it's not mine)






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Turning Normalized 4130 bar questions?

October 22, 2018, 9:43 am

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Most of my tooling and inserts are for Stainless.
How does Normalized 4130 machine compared to like 304 stainless that is the norm for me, increase in feed and speed and depth of cut or less?

TRACYL Siemens on 3 axis

October 22, 2018, 9:43 am

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Hello everyone!
I was wondering if TRACYL could move in 3 axis at the same time: not just Y and Z but also on X. This means that the TRCON (XX) value, the diameter declaration, is just an indication because the actual diameter of the milling bit will change as X changes.
Is the controller able to compensate this diameter change on the feed speed?

Thanks a lot!


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